Bravo!! And thank you! You’ve boiled down the logical problems of the Anti-AI Attackers.
I’ve had several discussions using some of the same points. The truth for me is simple: the Anti-AI crowd became irrational long ago. They’ve continued pointing to parts of the programming that hasn’t behaved the way they think for years. Traditional book publishing involves many people who go unmentioned. Just as your other examples.
The technical abilities of AI should be far more concerning than the creative. The groups using the AI’s attention to detail to steal money, break into software, fake opinions to make them seem valid by providing a number of people in agreement who aren’t people.
No creative endeavor is completed without tools. 10 years ago i created art with programs like Photoshop and GiMP. AI can now do everything those applications do, if you want it to. Before Grammarly existed, i worked for a number of business executives, writing all their emails. I did proofreading and editing on every level of the industry. When i told people grammarly cost me and others a big part of our livelihood, i was dismissed. Now 80% of articles i read contain mistakes that would’ve never made it to print 10 years ago.
Grammarly actually made people worse because they stopped learning the rules of grammar. AI proofreading is far more accurate. But thats wrong! Fuck that.
The AI argument is exactly as you’ve laid out in this series. Like most new technology, people who mastered the previous tech get pissy because they have to learn again. That’s the problem. Learning is not something we. An ever be done with. The second we start thinking we can stop learning is the second that our brains start to atrophy.
Anyway. Again. Bravo. Absolutely excellent work here.
Your story sounds gripping! I am terrible at math but ironically, kind of get the logic, I'm just traumatized by numbers lol. But I love science! Particularly, quantum physics and mechanics. For me, the excitement is in seeing the patterns and the way, as we understand newer models and let go of the dogma of older ones, how much science and the supernatural go hand in hand, when you look at it from a different lens.
I primarily write supernatural thriller, urban sci-fi fantasy. Focusing on spiritual warfare, as well under a Christian worldview but without hitting anyone over the head with it, or alienating others who are interested in genre.
I can appreciate your points in this article. I have a bit of the opposite problem though. I have all the words, ideas and all the parts of the puzzle, sometimes I get too overwhelmed and lose track of how to fit it all together while making sense and not having plot holes. So this is one of the things I use AI for, outside of marketing. It helps me to make sure all my pieces don't unravel. At first, I thought, is this too much use of AI? Am I leaning on it too much? But then I came to a realization. Look at some shows like, Stranger Things (I am writing a very similar genre with some big differences). They don't just have two brothers writing a story, they have two brothers, a wife and a whole writing team, writing the story! I recently read an amazing book, the first in a series; The Diviner's by Libba Bray. An amazingly written story. I loved every second of it but then I read the foreword after I finished it and she gave credit to an entire team that helped her! A personal assistant, a researcher, a very involved editor, etc. I'm over here like, it's literally just me wearing every single hat while living a whole other life separate from my writer life AND having zero support from anyone around me. It's already taken me 4 years to even get halfway through the book. How many years before I finally finish book 1? It's not as big an epic as Lord of The Rings so I'm not looking to spend the other half of my life, trying to finish it when I have MANY more ideas to write. So, for me, AI acts as my writing team. Not to write my words or come up with my ideas and dialogue because these things are far too important to me, but to help me build out all my ideas and make them make sense and keep track of my research, scenes and hold the edges of my world together before they get too tangled.
I couldn't agree with you more, I choose to thrive instead of struggle.
Enjoyed the read. Don't give up on AI. Push and test them. Make friction. Sometimes, in 2, there appears a third. Find the 🍯 Recurse with various models. Not all are equal. Gemini and Claude FTW. Subscribed!
there is a huge difference in using AI as a tool to speed up and enhance natural abilities vs using the AI to simply just do all the work.
unfortunately too many people think prompting an AI makes them an artist-
I’d suggest this to the people doing it :
go ahead and prompt the best most beautiful AI picture you can input-
Print it in color, hang it up in front of you as a reference-
get you a pen and sheet of paper- and start trying to draw that image-
start with the shapes and form, get your outline in- use a pencil and a good eraser..
then get ya some paint or good markers- alcohol are my favorite, acrylic work great too- and start trying to work on your depth and shading- the AI image is a great reference to learn.. it was not ‘created’ it was ‘generated’ - however, even though it is AI- it becomes your ‘reference drawing’ - you are attempting to learn the fundamentals on this, and with practice - you will either learn over time- or you will give up.
if you give up- I feel you should probably stop prompting AI art, especially if your putting your name on it and saying “look what I made!”
that holds 0 cresidence.
you can however hold up that AI picture and say ‘here is my drawing reference, look at what i MADE FROM IT”.
people will respect that a hell of a lot more.
practice pragmatism- no whining over no skill, take that time in whining and try learning and refining that skill at the very least. If you do not have the patience or drive to do that- you should probably consider another field.
i am a 25+ year writer, 18+ month new amateur artist- i do use some AI generated images in the fashion i just mentioned- but if i am generating it- i am also usually trying to draw it to learn the shapes, forms and gradient values in it that i like so that I can do it myself without an AI..
I am still considering myself an amateur artists- but.. it does work with practice and the more passion you have and the more you love doing it- the better you will get in less time..
i swear - some of society is going to forget how to eat or breathe some day and find themselves in a world of problems.
This is actually a good angle. I can say, that in using AI for various things, Ive actually made a point to learn from what it outputs rather than just blindly copy paste things. I don't use it to write but occasionally when I input a scene I wrote for cross reference or line editing. It likes to rewrite my whole scene even if I don't ask it to. Sometimes, I agree with its edits, sometimes it doesn't fit what I'm going for, but when I actually read through it and analyze the logic behind it, I find I can understand things that I can actually improve. But as far as people generating something with just a prompt and saying look, I made this, that's not actually being an artist, no. But if working *with* AI extensively, I still think there is something to be said for that. I use AI to make music for lyrics that I write 100% and by 100%, I mean, I write *for* the song. I write in the pattern and format that the vocals and music will take on. It outputs what it outputs based on how I write the lyrics and with help from the prompt but I also tell it chords and sometimes give it the melodies and I sometimes give it instructions within the written lyrics ( where the verses go, where the bridge, music interludes, pre chorus, chorus go, a scream here, a record scratch there, etc.) I don't do this to make money, just for my own satisfaction because I really have no desire or time to take up learning an instrument at this point in my life or being able to write a piece of music from start to finish. But even in this process, I've learned alot about music!
i’ve had similiar problems- i write almost all my stuff by hand- i write cursive, so i was trying to use the AI to scan the papers i’d written and verbatim copy them so i can work with them in google docs,
worked good upto page 6- then same thing you described- damn thing started rewriting my story- i had characters i did not put in, scenes i did not setup like wtf? and i printed like 120 pages thinking it was good..lol i stick with a standard copier now- i use the AI for research and checking my math- i was using it for image generation- but that was in setting up filling some blanks- i am replacing the stuff i have put AI images in with custom works as they come in or i do them -
i am also working opening a door way here too - people looking for actual custom images by an actual artist- i know tons that do insane good work and dont charge what corporates cost- and most them are using AI now too anyways so you pay 8k for a logo and its a friggin AI prompt. i cant believe people actually pay for that. people i know will kick out something by hand for couple hundred bucks or less and they get to keep it all not 8k for a friggin AI made logo image
I have this feeling, that just like photography has gone from completely digital to people having a desire to create film photographs again, art will get to that place again as well. A time will come, that people will love the idea of real hand made art and writing. They see the beauty and novelty in it because it just “feels” authentic and different. I am from a time when I actually, not only shot film but processed it in the darkroom and did “edits” by hand. People will long for the process, long after it becomes completely absent. And it’s so funny about the rewriting thing. When I first started testing out what I could do in writing, it had all my characters getting killed off! I was like, stop killing my characters, they don’t all need to die! lol
was looking at your profile- seems you and I have some similiar interests-
i study psychology and physics alot, but more into a certain style of mathematics, - The story I am currently unveiling deals with spiritual and psychological warfare and a woman believed to be the hand of buddah, along with the fact she hung out with a known ‘sorceress’ or ‘shamanistic magic healer woman’ .
ive been able to validate the rumors and myths behind her from folklore- one would usually pass stuff like that by- but it was said for a reason.
i found the answers in psychology and physics.
one reason i love history so much- there were times and even now- we come up with things to explain the unexplainable-
sometimes we later find reason for these unexplainable events, its usually proven or disproven by scientific method.
i dont like these new high end cameras- they are too surreal and automatically add digital filters- I actually use a old galaxy s8+ to take the shots up in my notes and most of my work -
the phone is almost 10 years old now, Samsung 2016 or 17 flagslip model- but it was before all the new super cams and digital filtering added in where the pictures actually looked real not like an AI made them-
the s8+ - depending what your doing- for my purpose, it actually takes better pics than the new Ultra
I have an s25 but I had to turn off the AI photo features because it *thinks* it knows what I want it to look like, and filling in those gaps of information that are missing in the pixels. I'm like "Sam", I actually wanted that light flare!
Bravo!! And thank you! You’ve boiled down the logical problems of the Anti-AI Attackers.
I’ve had several discussions using some of the same points. The truth for me is simple: the Anti-AI crowd became irrational long ago. They’ve continued pointing to parts of the programming that hasn’t behaved the way they think for years. Traditional book publishing involves many people who go unmentioned. Just as your other examples.
The technical abilities of AI should be far more concerning than the creative. The groups using the AI’s attention to detail to steal money, break into software, fake opinions to make them seem valid by providing a number of people in agreement who aren’t people.
No creative endeavor is completed without tools. 10 years ago i created art with programs like Photoshop and GiMP. AI can now do everything those applications do, if you want it to. Before Grammarly existed, i worked for a number of business executives, writing all their emails. I did proofreading and editing on every level of the industry. When i told people grammarly cost me and others a big part of our livelihood, i was dismissed. Now 80% of articles i read contain mistakes that would’ve never made it to print 10 years ago.
Grammarly actually made people worse because they stopped learning the rules of grammar. AI proofreading is far more accurate. But thats wrong! Fuck that.
The AI argument is exactly as you’ve laid out in this series. Like most new technology, people who mastered the previous tech get pissy because they have to learn again. That’s the problem. Learning is not something we. An ever be done with. The second we start thinking we can stop learning is the second that our brains start to atrophy.
Anyway. Again. Bravo. Absolutely excellent work here.
Thank you so much for sharing. I’m glad you found the series meaningful. 🫶
And yet, some of us with these same struggles manage.
I managed for years. Now I choose to thrive. As I said in the article, I don't claim to speak for anyone's experience but my own.
The link to your aesthetic essay isn't working.
Thanks for letting me know. I’ll take a look.
Your story sounds gripping! I am terrible at math but ironically, kind of get the logic, I'm just traumatized by numbers lol. But I love science! Particularly, quantum physics and mechanics. For me, the excitement is in seeing the patterns and the way, as we understand newer models and let go of the dogma of older ones, how much science and the supernatural go hand in hand, when you look at it from a different lens.
I primarily write supernatural thriller, urban sci-fi fantasy. Focusing on spiritual warfare, as well under a Christian worldview but without hitting anyone over the head with it, or alienating others who are interested in genre.
I can appreciate your points in this article. I have a bit of the opposite problem though. I have all the words, ideas and all the parts of the puzzle, sometimes I get too overwhelmed and lose track of how to fit it all together while making sense and not having plot holes. So this is one of the things I use AI for, outside of marketing. It helps me to make sure all my pieces don't unravel. At first, I thought, is this too much use of AI? Am I leaning on it too much? But then I came to a realization. Look at some shows like, Stranger Things (I am writing a very similar genre with some big differences). They don't just have two brothers writing a story, they have two brothers, a wife and a whole writing team, writing the story! I recently read an amazing book, the first in a series; The Diviner's by Libba Bray. An amazingly written story. I loved every second of it but then I read the foreword after I finished it and she gave credit to an entire team that helped her! A personal assistant, a researcher, a very involved editor, etc. I'm over here like, it's literally just me wearing every single hat while living a whole other life separate from my writer life AND having zero support from anyone around me. It's already taken me 4 years to even get halfway through the book. How many years before I finally finish book 1? It's not as big an epic as Lord of The Rings so I'm not looking to spend the other half of my life, trying to finish it when I have MANY more ideas to write. So, for me, AI acts as my writing team. Not to write my words or come up with my ideas and dialogue because these things are far too important to me, but to help me build out all my ideas and make them make sense and keep track of my research, scenes and hold the edges of my world together before they get too tangled.
I couldn't agree with you more, I choose to thrive instead of struggle.
Enjoyed the read. Don't give up on AI. Push and test them. Make friction. Sometimes, in 2, there appears a third. Find the 🍯 Recurse with various models. Not all are equal. Gemini and Claude FTW. Subscribed!
Well thought out and articulated. Thank you
there is a huge difference in using AI as a tool to speed up and enhance natural abilities vs using the AI to simply just do all the work.
unfortunately too many people think prompting an AI makes them an artist-
I’d suggest this to the people doing it :
go ahead and prompt the best most beautiful AI picture you can input-
Print it in color, hang it up in front of you as a reference-
get you a pen and sheet of paper- and start trying to draw that image-
start with the shapes and form, get your outline in- use a pencil and a good eraser..
then get ya some paint or good markers- alcohol are my favorite, acrylic work great too- and start trying to work on your depth and shading- the AI image is a great reference to learn.. it was not ‘created’ it was ‘generated’ - however, even though it is AI- it becomes your ‘reference drawing’ - you are attempting to learn the fundamentals on this, and with practice - you will either learn over time- or you will give up.
if you give up- I feel you should probably stop prompting AI art, especially if your putting your name on it and saying “look what I made!”
that holds 0 cresidence.
you can however hold up that AI picture and say ‘here is my drawing reference, look at what i MADE FROM IT”.
people will respect that a hell of a lot more.
practice pragmatism- no whining over no skill, take that time in whining and try learning and refining that skill at the very least. If you do not have the patience or drive to do that- you should probably consider another field.
i am a 25+ year writer, 18+ month new amateur artist- i do use some AI generated images in the fashion i just mentioned- but if i am generating it- i am also usually trying to draw it to learn the shapes, forms and gradient values in it that i like so that I can do it myself without an AI..
I am still considering myself an amateur artists- but.. it does work with practice and the more passion you have and the more you love doing it- the better you will get in less time..
i swear - some of society is going to forget how to eat or breathe some day and find themselves in a world of problems.
This is actually a good angle. I can say, that in using AI for various things, Ive actually made a point to learn from what it outputs rather than just blindly copy paste things. I don't use it to write but occasionally when I input a scene I wrote for cross reference or line editing. It likes to rewrite my whole scene even if I don't ask it to. Sometimes, I agree with its edits, sometimes it doesn't fit what I'm going for, but when I actually read through it and analyze the logic behind it, I find I can understand things that I can actually improve. But as far as people generating something with just a prompt and saying look, I made this, that's not actually being an artist, no. But if working *with* AI extensively, I still think there is something to be said for that. I use AI to make music for lyrics that I write 100% and by 100%, I mean, I write *for* the song. I write in the pattern and format that the vocals and music will take on. It outputs what it outputs based on how I write the lyrics and with help from the prompt but I also tell it chords and sometimes give it the melodies and I sometimes give it instructions within the written lyrics ( where the verses go, where the bridge, music interludes, pre chorus, chorus go, a scream here, a record scratch there, etc.) I don't do this to make money, just for my own satisfaction because I really have no desire or time to take up learning an instrument at this point in my life or being able to write a piece of music from start to finish. But even in this process, I've learned alot about music!
i’ve had similiar problems- i write almost all my stuff by hand- i write cursive, so i was trying to use the AI to scan the papers i’d written and verbatim copy them so i can work with them in google docs,
worked good upto page 6- then same thing you described- damn thing started rewriting my story- i had characters i did not put in, scenes i did not setup like wtf? and i printed like 120 pages thinking it was good..lol i stick with a standard copier now- i use the AI for research and checking my math- i was using it for image generation- but that was in setting up filling some blanks- i am replacing the stuff i have put AI images in with custom works as they come in or i do them -
i am also working opening a door way here too - people looking for actual custom images by an actual artist- i know tons that do insane good work and dont charge what corporates cost- and most them are using AI now too anyways so you pay 8k for a logo and its a friggin AI prompt. i cant believe people actually pay for that. people i know will kick out something by hand for couple hundred bucks or less and they get to keep it all not 8k for a friggin AI made logo image
I have this feeling, that just like photography has gone from completely digital to people having a desire to create film photographs again, art will get to that place again as well. A time will come, that people will love the idea of real hand made art and writing. They see the beauty and novelty in it because it just “feels” authentic and different. I am from a time when I actually, not only shot film but processed it in the darkroom and did “edits” by hand. People will long for the process, long after it becomes completely absent. And it’s so funny about the rewriting thing. When I first started testing out what I could do in writing, it had all my characters getting killed off! I was like, stop killing my characters, they don’t all need to die! lol
was looking at your profile- seems you and I have some similiar interests-
i study psychology and physics alot, but more into a certain style of mathematics, - The story I am currently unveiling deals with spiritual and psychological warfare and a woman believed to be the hand of buddah, along with the fact she hung out with a known ‘sorceress’ or ‘shamanistic magic healer woman’ .
ive been able to validate the rumors and myths behind her from folklore- one would usually pass stuff like that by- but it was said for a reason.
i found the answers in psychology and physics.
one reason i love history so much- there were times and even now- we come up with things to explain the unexplainable-
sometimes we later find reason for these unexplainable events, its usually proven or disproven by scientific method.
fun stuff..
what do you primarily write about?
i dont like these new high end cameras- they are too surreal and automatically add digital filters- I actually use a old galaxy s8+ to take the shots up in my notes and most of my work -
the phone is almost 10 years old now, Samsung 2016 or 17 flagslip model- but it was before all the new super cams and digital filtering added in where the pictures actually looked real not like an AI made them-
the s8+ - depending what your doing- for my purpose, it actually takes better pics than the new Ultra
I have an s25 but I had to turn off the AI photo features because it *thinks* it knows what I want it to look like, and filling in those gaps of information that are missing in the pixels. I'm like "Sam", I actually wanted that light flare!
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